You said something about some exodus of “talent” you forgot the quotes. Flash is no longer an artist’s tool thx to as3 which BTW is awesome.

Starting to make more HTML5 content it’s a good alternative, knowing the capabilities of this technology and the penetration rate, and maybe push it further; but in this case, it is good that we do not require any Adobe tools to complete this task.

Despite how wrong this post is today, I’m glad I wrote it. It was a moment in time, fueled by misinformation and confusion. This post gave voice to an underlying primal yell from the community, so at least Adobe knew what it was giving up on.

David Salahi

David Salahi
Adobe Certified Expert, Flex

But I do really wonder about commercial sites and flash. Many of the larger sites have been making 2 versions of there sites for the last 2 years (Iphone/Mobile Phone) and one for home PC users. So Is this really going to change the current trend? Your company makes fantastic user experiences for both Flash and non flash sites and as you know Mobile Sites do NOT look like Desktop sites. So Is things really going to change that fast?

I have android phone and Flash sites look just bad on them. I really want them to look good but there not designed for the small screen, so they just look bad.

So Is it going to kill the market all at once? Do not know. But Games will stick around till someone makes a great easy to develop tool to make kick ass games in the 3 to 9 months time frame that flash can. I do not see that happening tomorrow as the browsers are fighting over what forms of CSS / HTML / JavaScript to use.

Heck were going back to 2001 but no flash or shockwave this time. What a &*(^(& world.

PS> I am busy studying up on Unity – JQuery – and CSS. With a friend like Adobe, it never hurts to buddy up with all the other people in the room.

If they did, well why the hell would they kill something in such a public way as signal that “WE HAVE GIVEN UP ON FLASH”. Since HTML 5 and CSS3 can do many of the Flash motion stuff, adobe is basically saying: The future is not flash its HTML and CSS. We will still make money selling tools to do that, so we can just dump the flash platform so we can get on with it.

Oh Ya, You can still make Apps with AIR and have them on IOS and Android so do NOT worry about it. Heck there is a Lot of work the ex flash developers can do as they take major pay cuts to learn CSS3 – HTML5 – and JavaScript for the next few years. What you have spent many years working and promoting flash? Well don’t worry about anything. We at Adobe have everything covered for you. Trust us with your work life as we have a plan. We understand users and the industry and how are public actions effect them.

Trust us. We do have a message. Its just not the one you want to hear.

Tonight, Adobe, we shall take over the world. Muhuahuahuahua.

sorry … but … is any one upcoming to the idea that it is a marketing action or something else?
Such a huge company didn`t make anything without knowing results of actions.

I believe there will be a master plan behind the announcement. In my eyes they will make more attractive web and cloud applications. Perhaps mobile will grow the next years, but in our technology age is always a option to start with a new or old technology into a growing internet ….
For more about then ten years JavaScript should be died and today there is no website without jQuery or Prototype.

It`s true that companies with focus on flash and mobile getting hard times. But that`s business risk.

Let us looking forward and don`t be to negative about the announcements.

Regards

Oh… wait. None of that is true.

HTML5 Canvas is a better solution in many cases. Not all. Maybe if you weren’t so blinded by the shit you read on the internet you’d hate less “the technology your friends and pundits” hate so much. It’s just technology and tools. No need to bring douch-hattery into the argument.

They didn’t learn from Apple, Apple acquired 2 or 3 companies now to develop their own google map alternative, just for example. Apple trying to make the whole package of software/services in their hands. Adobe spend a lot of money in acquiring companies but they didn’t make the whole package of web browsing experience in their hands.

What you can notice is adobe is not doing well in internet development, they acquired companies, but after a few years they discontinued their products, Adobe acquired GoLive Systems in 1999 , Also they acquired Adobe Developer ToolBox ADDT in about 2006,

http://www.dmxzone.com/go?16662

And the most expensive acquisition was from macromedia for 3.5 billions in 2005, now we see the heart of this expensive acquisition (Flash as a standard for cross platform not just a development tool like dreamweaver) all are dead.

Adobe Bites then Spits the internet technology.

About 60% of Adobe’s revenue comes from creative products, and no more than 6% from Flash Pro. With less usage of web in mobile and more apps downloads, Adobe can’t afford to reduce efforts on Adobe AIR.

Machinarium most sold game on app store at some point, is now on App Store in the desktop, again AIR. The U$13.1 billion generated by the game industry last year is an unprecedented opportunity for Adobe AIR with the new Flash player 3D api.

I can see how investors and clients may be a little anxious due to Adobe not announcing a road map together with their decision.

Adobe AIR development is very, but very active in Adobe’s side these days, and Adobe is not really a waiting the market response kinda company.

I mean, they bought Macromedia, so they bought PhoneGap. Indeed they may have a hard time catalysing their creative product needs via Adobe Edge, but then they have PhoneGap and they clearly pro-acting as well as they can.

But yeah, Adobe, watch out for making sure your nearly 3.000.000 developers community understand and respects you moves!

I can guarantee you that firms were starting to rewrite their 2012 web budgets before Adobe even finished their conference, removing all the Flash plans that they could — that was already where things were trending before the announcements. Games are great, but until yesterday they were only a part of the Flash market. There’s not enough growth to be found in browser games to replace what else will be lost.

As I said, Flash in the browser won’t disappear — but there will be much, much less of it.

And yes, Adobe will have decimated their Flash community with these announcements.

Games are a prime example of why I don’t think Flash usage on the web will decline, at least not significantly enough. Look at almost any game on Facebook – they’re all built within the Flash platform and are generating tremendous amounts of revenue for both start-ups and established businesses. As we’re still utilizing desktops, packaging Flash games in AIR for web use doesn’t make sense as we’ve been experiencing more and more in-browser tools & applications, where Flash fits in perfectly.

I do however believe that ActionScripters will be less focused and involved as a community. And that’s a real shame.

I agree that there is not yet a replacement — which means that, over the next couple of years, a lot of work that would have been done in Flash will not get done at all.

There is Unity as well but wait it works same way flash is going to, it has desktop plugin and focuses on app development in mobile devices. Personally i think we need to wait and see, its not like we can use something different there is none out there.

They did the right thing but in a horrible way, its like being shown in news killing a man without the part where it was clear that the man was a mass murderer trying to kill someone. Far stretched analogy but thats how i see it

- Starting with Flex 2.0, we witnessed many enterprise developers with J2EE/.NET backgrounds entering the scene because they saw AS/MXML and Flash runtime as a viable means to develop RIAs without the PITA factor that prevailed with AJAX libraries and frameworks at the time.

- They brought with them a mindset of frameworks & micro-architectures (Cairngorm, PureMVC, Granite, etc) to support medium/large-scale development, enterprise-grade SDLC, automated testing, partitioning of client-side business logic, etc. For a while (and still is for many of our clients), Flex atop Spring/Hibernate was (is) the default for J2EE app dev.

- At this current time, I am not aware of architectures, frameworks and tools to support HTML5 development ON AN ENTERPRISE-GRADE LEVEL. Sure, Canvas is cool; even some of the CS5.5 features to support HTML5 are neat. However, authoring tools have to integrate into a meaningful workflow to support 10-25 people muddling through design, build, test, and deploy. The Flex community has figured out many of these SDLC issues…..when I look at the current state of HTML5 SDLC, it feels very 2005.

“We Love Freedom”

To indicate that let the developer choose the technology that they want.

Why these words were vaporized in a minute ?
It is really strange that after Adobe achieved the promising Stage3D technology which can change some negative points of Flash regarding cpu usage, performance & battery draining to kill the Flash Platform. Who can trust Adobe any more?

look what Adobe’s CEO Shantanu Narayen said one and half year ago about the success of Flash as a multi devices design/develop tool which gets its success from consumers themselves because they want it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93NX9cpgJ4I

why all these words are vaporized now?